There are a lot of motorcycles with tanks smaller than 4 gallons lol
very_anonymous on
Blame ethanol for that.
franktheguy on
Shibari_Inu69 on
How would this be enforced lol
spaceduckcoast2coast on
I haven’t done any research at all, so take this as you may; but I get the feeling some random person added that sticker.
SaltyShawarma on
That can’t be a federal law.
FiveDozenWhales on
This is related to that “CONTAINS UP TO 10% ETHANOL” sign.
Basically, if the last person to use this pump purchased E15, the hose is going to still be full of E15. If you buy just one gallon of E10, you’re getting tons of E15 mixed in from the hose – so the fuel you purchase will be MORE than 10% ethanol.
This sign is only applied to pumps that dispense E15 AND lower-ethanol fuels (E10 or E0). There are only around 200 such pumps in the country!
All gas stations also have dedicated E10/E0 pumps, so if you want just a couple gallons, you don’t have to go to a different gas station – just don’t use this mixed-fuel pump.
>**Why would a consumer have to buy more than 4 gallons of fuel from pumps that dispense both E10 and E15?**
>With co-dispensing pumps, E10 and E15 share a common hose and nozzle. Because E15 may still be in the hose when a customer switches to dispensing E10, the first few gallons of E10 dispensed can have ethanol percentages at levels slightly higher than 10%. A minimum purchase of 4 gallons of E10 from a co-dispensing pump ensures that the total volume of dispensed gasoline contains no more than 10% ethanol.
E10 and E15 refer to the percentage of ethanol in the gasoline.
Edit: fixed the link
under_the_c on
Underfill? Straight to jail.
Infinite_Dig_7001 on
That’s actually because of E15 fuel. Federal rules say you need to buy at least 4 gallons if you’re mixing it, so small containers don’t end up with the wrong ethanol ratio.
gijoe50000 on
I made the mistake of googling “*Ohio, 4 gal minimum law*” to see if it was actually a law.
It took me a second to realise why the first result was a link to a Wikipedia page on child marriage in the US. 🤣
Putrid-Builder-3333 on
Well I haven’t seen any of that in my parts. However, doesn’t mean places, prolly small locally owned not backed by a super large corporation of oil/gas are implementing to break even. Or need to break even to stay in “support” of the big companies.
I found articles stating no law. I found articles about E10 but rarely E15 and couple other news articles from 2012 and 2024. Rest was FB posts and other miscellaneous news source apps.
Then again I don’t go to the gas station for only 4 gallons. Roughly 10-12 bucks round my area. However the people I did see that would pay for anything less than ten dollars in gas when I was involved in gas station jobs or as a customer. Those people would come in with 10 or 15 dollars and buy alcohol, cigs, swisher sweets and/or backwoods then use the $1.50-2.50 change leftover for gas.
This looks like small town/small independent owned prices and ways to get more money. Not so much a law. Or price gouging.
I will pay attention cos sometimes I do fill up before a long travel to track miles and more for compensation. However still never heard of such a rule let akone law when I go in and pay and be told a script about how this has to happen or see signs on the pumps before I even put my card in.
AnnoyedVelociraptor on
I was surprised when I moved to the states that the nozzle is shared. In Europe the nozzle is separated.
RenoxDashin on
Fuck me for only wanting on gallon lmfao. Jk i see the reasoning in the other comment.
crashomon on
Tell that to all the bikers with 3 gallon tanks.
gdshaffe on
Kind of wild. I pump less than 4 gallons (of regular fuel) all the time when returning rental cars.
dlampach on
A random person walking up to a gas pump and pumping 1 gallon of gas is not breaking the law, regardless of that sign.
hotmaildotcom1 on
Dang I spent all the time making the perfect gif for this but can’t upload it.
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There are a lot of motorcycles with tanks smaller than 4 gallons lol
Blame ethanol for that.
How would this be enforced lol
I haven’t done any research at all, so take this as you may; but I get the feeling some random person added that sticker.
That can’t be a federal law.
This is related to that “CONTAINS UP TO 10% ETHANOL” sign.
Basically, if the last person to use this pump purchased E15, the hose is going to still be full of E15. If you buy just one gallon of E10, you’re getting tons of E15 mixed in from the hose – so the fuel you purchase will be MORE than 10% ethanol.
This sign is only applied to pumps that dispense E15 AND lower-ethanol fuels (E10 or E0). There are only around 200 such pumps in the country!
All gas stations also have dedicated E10/E0 pumps, so if you want just a couple gallons, you don’t have to go to a different gas station – just don’t use this mixed-fuel pump.
from [https://www.epa.gov/fuels-registration-reporting-and-compliance-help/frequent-questions-related-motorcycle-fueling](https://www.epa.gov/fuels-registration-reporting-and-compliance-help/frequent-questions-related-motorcycle-fueling)
>**Why would a consumer have to buy more than 4 gallons of fuel from pumps that dispense both E10 and E15?**
>With co-dispensing pumps, E10 and E15 share a common hose and nozzle. Because E15 may still be in the hose when a customer switches to dispensing E10, the first few gallons of E10 dispensed can have ethanol percentages at levels slightly higher than 10%. A minimum purchase of 4 gallons of E10 from a co-dispensing pump ensures that the total volume of dispensed gasoline contains no more than 10% ethanol.
E10 and E15 refer to the percentage of ethanol in the gasoline.
Edit: fixed the link
Underfill? Straight to jail.
That’s actually because of E15 fuel. Federal rules say you need to buy at least 4 gallons if you’re mixing it, so small containers don’t end up with the wrong ethanol ratio.
I made the mistake of googling “*Ohio, 4 gal minimum law*” to see if it was actually a law.
It took me a second to realise why the first result was a link to a Wikipedia page on child marriage in the US. 🤣
Well I haven’t seen any of that in my parts. However, doesn’t mean places, prolly small locally owned not backed by a super large corporation of oil/gas are implementing to break even. Or need to break even to stay in “support” of the big companies.
I found articles stating no law. I found articles about E10 but rarely E15 and couple other news articles from 2012 and 2024. Rest was FB posts and other miscellaneous news source apps.
Then again I don’t go to the gas station for only 4 gallons. Roughly 10-12 bucks round my area. However the people I did see that would pay for anything less than ten dollars in gas when I was involved in gas station jobs or as a customer. Those people would come in with 10 or 15 dollars and buy alcohol, cigs, swisher sweets and/or backwoods then use the $1.50-2.50 change leftover for gas.
This looks like small town/small independent owned prices and ways to get more money. Not so much a law. Or price gouging.
I will pay attention cos sometimes I do fill up before a long travel to track miles and more for compensation. However still never heard of such a rule let akone law when I go in and pay and be told a script about how this has to happen or see signs on the pumps before I even put my card in.
I was surprised when I moved to the states that the nozzle is shared. In Europe the nozzle is separated.
Fuck me for only wanting on gallon lmfao. Jk i see the reasoning in the other comment.
Tell that to all the bikers with 3 gallon tanks.
Kind of wild. I pump less than 4 gallons (of regular fuel) all the time when returning rental cars.
A random person walking up to a gas pump and pumping 1 gallon of gas is not breaking the law, regardless of that sign.
Dang I spent all the time making the perfect gif for this but can’t upload it.
[https://makeagif.com/i/2gt91d](https://makeagif.com/i/2gt91d)